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Here is another petition from Credo, I don’t see a conflict in signing two petitions, we sure could use the pressure.

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Dog Canyon 1 Reply

Has anyone got the bees in Dog Canyon yet? If not, I will go. Claude Claflin 575-430-2911Continue

Started by Claude Claflin. Last reply by Rob Shepler yesterday.

Swarm 7 Replies

A student told me this morning that there was a swarm around one of her trees yesterday afternoon, and they were still there this morning, and they settled on the tree a bit later. I'm too new to…Continue

Started by Gloria Villaverde. Last reply by Paul McCarty on Friday.

New Hive 1 Reply


Started by Kevin W. Thatcher. Last reply by Paul McCarty Apr 10.

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Started by Kevin W. Thatcher Apr 10.

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Comment by Jeremy McK on March 14, 2014 at 4:48pm

Kenneth it sounds like you are talking about the inner cover.  It goes on top of your upper most super under the lid.  The individual supers just stack on each other.


Comment by Kenneth Lee Henderson on March 14, 2014 at 3:48am

Not really but I was thinking the same about you, the getting up early part. I've been up all night pondering a situation. Hope you at least got some sleep before 3:30. I find insight comes to me after anger and some beer drinking.

Comment by Rob Shepler on March 14, 2014 at 3:14am

Your term is probably correct, my lang experience is 35 years old! I hope someone else will chime in with current knowledge. You get up to early Ken!

Comment by Kenneth Lee Henderson on March 14, 2014 at 2:48am

Rob, Maybe I used the wrong term. I was referring to the thin piece of Masonite with a frame the size of the box that has an oval slot about 3" X1" in the middle. That's what I was calling a divider.
I do have a queen excluder and if I understand the principal you would put it over the above mentioned opening to keep the queen from entering the top box. My personal preference is to raise more bees first, get more honey later, if that makes sense.

My question is, do I need to use said divider between the boxes or do you just stack them up one on top of the other?

And thank you James and Rob for taking time to larn me sumpin!

Comment by Rob Shepler on March 14, 2014 at 2:33am

Oh, divider. Many folks shun a queen excluder although it can be a very useful tool.

For honey production some use a queen excluder to keep the queen out of the top box to be sure there is no brood, it makes harvesting a little easier. In my experience it happens naturally if they have enough room in the brood chamber.

A queen excluder makes your life a little easier if you are chasing queens or need to re-queen a hot hive, most of the time they should stay in the truck in my opinion. Follow your heart on that one.

Comment by Rob Shepler on March 14, 2014 at 2:22am

Yep, time to take a peek, check for eggs and a viable queen, and a good laying pattern. Probably not going to be a lot of honey as you expect.

This time of year they will be building brood, getting ready for the mesquite flow. When they are close to filling the box and it is warm enough outside, pull a couple of frames of uncapped brood up into the center of the new box you put on, and place the undrawn comb in the bottom box. The uncapped brood will pull the nurse bees up to care for the young.

A lot of folks will run the same size boxes so it is easy to trade frames up and down in a Lang. A "Super" is short for the term "Superior" which just refers to the top box. Some folks use the term Honey Super as the bees tend to store their honey high in the colony in a Lang system.

If they start to get full, Super them!

So glad to hear that the swarm is doing well, nice job Ken!

Comment by Kenneth Lee Henderson on March 13, 2014 at 10:18pm

James, Since the bees have only been in the box for 3 weeks I doubt they have filled it up. Mostly I was wondering if I should pull a few frames and see what they have been up to. I doubt seriously they have any honey. What would they make it from? Sugar water? While there has been rain in the mountains and they have pollen we in the desert are still dealing with extreme drought conditions and nothing is blooming unless someone is watering it.

I would hope to see brood and pollen at least but not expecting much else.

When it does get full what frames should I move upstairs? Honey, brood,? Do I replace the moved frames in the bottom with empty frames? I'm assuming I need to put a divider between the boxes when I add one? Which is best, a full sized box or a super?

Comment by James H DAWDY on March 13, 2014 at 6:15am

Kenneth-sure.  I'd want to know how much of the hive box they've drawn out with comb and filled with brood and honey.  Have a deep and/or super on hand in case the hive is full.  Ideally, you want to pull some of the frames from the bottom hive body (or maybe it's the only hive body if you just hived a swarm in it) and put 3-4 of them in a second hive body that you add.  So, you have some empty space in the bottom brood hive body, and some "active" frames in the next hive body.  You're trying to convince the hive it has plenty of room to grow and doesn't need to swarm.  But regardless, you can take a look and get an idea for how much comb they've built, honey they've put up, and how much brood they have. 

Comment by Diana Calkins on March 12, 2014 at 9:14am

Just got back from California, where I drove past miles and miles of almond, pear, apple, peach, etc. orchards and vineyards.  In the almond orchards there were clusters of hive boxes throughout.  I also saw helicopters loading and then spraying over the tops of the almond orchards, with the bees still located there.  Made me very sad to see that the bees are subjected to this spraying.  Do I know what is in the sprays or if it is harmful to the bees?  No.  But in nature bees do not experience this, I am sure.

Comment by Kenneth Lee Henderson on March 11, 2014 at 10:52pm

On a better news note, my friend in Alamo Canyon where I took the swarm took me into his backyard this morning to hear and see the bees at work on his N.M. Olive tree. There were hundreds and all loaded up like overweight bellydumps. He says he hasn't seen bees like this in several years.
It has been 3 weeks today since I took the hive over. Should I take a look in or leave them alone? And if I should look, what should I not do and what am I looking for?


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