Southern New Mexico Beekeepers


Southern New Mexico Beekeepers

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Another petition

Here is another petition from Credo, I don’t see a conflict in signing two petitions, we sure could use the pressure.

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New Hive 1 Reply


Started by Kevin W. Thatcher. Last reply by Paul McCarty on Friday.

Pics of bees and Bloosoms


Started by Kevin W. Thatcher on Friday.

Is tipping necessary? 2 Replies

I asked Rob a question today he didn't have an answer for so I'm putting it out to the group.I was asked by a potential land owning bee landlord if there was any honey in it for him? I really didn't…Continue

Started by Kenneth Lee Henderson. Last reply by Paul McCarty Apr 7.

Southern NM Hive Count 25 Replies

In another forum, Paul put out the question, "So how many hives everybody going into winter with?"  This is a great question and a means to get some stats for our area?So beeks in southern NM, how…Continue

Started by Diana Calkins. Last reply by Paul McCarty Mar 22.

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Comment by W.C. Arnold Jr. on March 15, 2014 at 6:40pm

Now here is my question since I am learning  and have so much to learn.  The hive was so large, that I had a medium super and I decided to take a few thousand bees and about 5 frames of brood.  If I didn't get the queen and there is a good chance I didn't, will the bees I have produce a queen on their own or do I need to help out in some way? 

Any assistance is truly appreciated.

Comment by W.C. Arnold Jr. on March 15, 2014 at 6:35pm

Kent Huisingh, Claude and I performed a removal today and there was a lot of beautiful honey.

Comment by Joel Fyock on March 14, 2014 at 5:32pm

Letting local folks from the Alamogordo-Mayhill area know that I'll be traveling up to Bosque Farms to pick up package bees from Papa Bears Honey on the 26th of March (expect to be back in area by early afternoon). Let me know if you'll need me to pick your bees up. Joel Fyock (Robinhood in Mayhill)  

Comment by Jeremy McK on March 14, 2014 at 4:48pm

Kenneth it sounds like you are talking about the inner cover.  It goes on top of your upper most super under the lid.  The individual supers just stack on each other.


Comment by Kenneth Lee Henderson on March 14, 2014 at 3:48am

Not really but I was thinking the same about you, the getting up early part. I've been up all night pondering a situation. Hope you at least got some sleep before 3:30. I find insight comes to me after anger and some beer drinking.

Comment by Rob Shepler on March 14, 2014 at 3:14am

Your term is probably correct, my lang experience is 35 years old! I hope someone else will chime in with current knowledge. You get up to early Ken!

Comment by Kenneth Lee Henderson on March 14, 2014 at 2:48am

Rob, Maybe I used the wrong term. I was referring to the thin piece of Masonite with a frame the size of the box that has an oval slot about 3" X1" in the middle. That's what I was calling a divider.
I do have a queen excluder and if I understand the principal you would put it over the above mentioned opening to keep the queen from entering the top box. My personal preference is to raise more bees first, get more honey later, if that makes sense.

My question is, do I need to use said divider between the boxes or do you just stack them up one on top of the other?

And thank you James and Rob for taking time to larn me sumpin!

Comment by Rob Shepler on March 14, 2014 at 2:33am

Oh, divider. Many folks shun a queen excluder although it can be a very useful tool.

For honey production some use a queen excluder to keep the queen out of the top box to be sure there is no brood, it makes harvesting a little easier. In my experience it happens naturally if they have enough room in the brood chamber.

A queen excluder makes your life a little easier if you are chasing queens or need to re-queen a hot hive, most of the time they should stay in the truck in my opinion. Follow your heart on that one.

Comment by Rob Shepler on March 14, 2014 at 2:22am

Yep, time to take a peek, check for eggs and a viable queen, and a good laying pattern. Probably not going to be a lot of honey as you expect.

This time of year they will be building brood, getting ready for the mesquite flow. When they are close to filling the box and it is warm enough outside, pull a couple of frames of uncapped brood up into the center of the new box you put on, and place the undrawn comb in the bottom box. The uncapped brood will pull the nurse bees up to care for the young.

A lot of folks will run the same size boxes so it is easy to trade frames up and down in a Lang. A "Super" is short for the term "Superior" which just refers to the top box. Some folks use the term Honey Super as the bees tend to store their honey high in the colony in a Lang system.

If they start to get full, Super them!

So glad to hear that the swarm is doing well, nice job Ken!

Comment by Kenneth Lee Henderson on March 13, 2014 at 10:18pm

James, Since the bees have only been in the box for 3 weeks I doubt they have filled it up. Mostly I was wondering if I should pull a few frames and see what they have been up to. I doubt seriously they have any honey. What would they make it from? Sugar water? While there has been rain in the mountains and they have pollen we in the desert are still dealing with extreme drought conditions and nothing is blooming unless someone is watering it.

I would hope to see brood and pollen at least but not expecting much else.

When it does get full what frames should I move upstairs? Honey, brood,? Do I replace the moved frames in the bottom with empty frames? I'm assuming I need to put a divider between the boxes when I add one? Which is best, a full sized box or a super?


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