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Comment by Diana Calkins on June 4, 2013 at 1:07pm

Rob, I think your questions, re: What if, How does, etc. should be presented to the Planning & Zoning board.

As far as the City Commishes go, I think we need to be cooperative with them.  Overall, they want to do what is right for all city residents.  Let's go to this meeting with a positive, cooperative attitude...even if it hurts.  

Comment by Kenneth Lee Henderson on June 4, 2013 at 11:43am

More B/S laws to CYA for the city. I don't think we will get a fair shake from the city. In all my experience with the city commission I have found their minds are already made up before the meeting. Maybe this time will be different?

I will be glad to pitch in for a "mouthpiece" but I think convincing the city to adopt state law is the best course of action.

Just ditto Ralph Ketter's comments to me.

Comment by Chad Schumpert on June 4, 2013 at 11:01am

I agree with you Rob. Don't mind pitching in few buck either.

This is ridiculous/ if a hive is a nuisance neighbors can call the city. The city would then decide if this is warranted or not.

Comment by Rob Shepler on June 4, 2013 at 6:39am

I am putting this out to the group for collective thought, what if my neighbors are jerks and yours are sweethearts? As written, this law would prevent me from keeping bees. This section of the proposed law bothers me, it is very subjective and I can see both sides of it. Education of neighbors is huge, misinformation or lack of understanding regarding bees may keep some out of the mix. Does this section of the law serve the beekeeper and the neighbors well?

            What if my neighbor has a feral bee tree but will not allow me to keep bees? How does the city deal with these disputes? As a potential beekeeper are you willing to pay for a professional arbitrator? Does this section cause undue turmoil?

            Your thoughts please.

Comment by Rob Shepler on June 4, 2013 at 4:32am

Would these two substitutions be acceptable?

7-01-020 (d) (1) (A) Hive Registration.

(suggested) All honey bee colonies shall be registered annually with the New Mexico Department of Agriculture, Entomology & Nursery Industries Section if so required by the State.

The paragraph appears to be in conflict with State law, below Interstate 40 a beekeeper must register with the state if they have an apiary of more than 25 colonies, less than 25 are unregulated.

 

7-01-020 (d) (1) (B)

(suggested)All honey bee colonies shall be kept in removable comb type hive such as a Langstroth, Top bar or Warre hives with removable bars or frames, which shall be kept in sound and usable condition.

(Langstroth hives were invented 150 years ago and replaced hollow logs which could not be inspected. Although langstroth hives are still favored by many, New Mexico has a very large Top Bar and Warre following. Hive inspection is the key to this paragraph.)

Comment by Chad Schumpert on June 3, 2013 at 9:29pm

I will b there
Any more advise would help Paul.

I agree keep it simple cut the garb out.

Comment by Paul McCarty on June 3, 2013 at 9:02pm

Due to a death in the family, I will be unable to attend. I had the same observation Ralph. It would be far easier to simply state that all beekeepers and hives comply with the New Mexico Bee Code. That registration stuff was obviously lifted from another state's rules.

Comment by Ralph Ketter on June 3, 2013 at 8:55pm

Thanks for the meeting notice Rob.  I looked over the proposed regulations from a beekeeping viewpoint only.  I was surprised to see that under the proposed ordinance General Regulations

A. requires "All Hives must be registered...."  Unless we can convince them to eliminate the requirement, I would propose they change it to read "All hives shall be registered in accordance with New Mexico Department of Agriculture Statute 21.27.2.9" because they only require Commercial Apiaries to be registered.

Also under General Regulations

B. They also require Hive Type to be Langstroth Type.  I would urge them to change it to read "Apiary Equipment shall be in accordance with New Mexico Department of Agriculture Statute 21.27.2.8" because it only requires removable frames.

The above two issue are the highest priority ones for me.

Ralph

Comment by Rob Shepler on June 3, 2013 at 6:15pm

The new Alamogordo ordinance addressing “Keeping Restrictions” will go before the Planning and Zoning board Thursday night the 6^th of June. The meeting will begin at 6:00 pm. The address is 1376 E. Ninth Street, Alamogordo, NM

 

If you wish to speak there will be a sign in sheet to accommodate you, be sure to sign up if you wish to do so. I would encourage you to be there and speak your mind.

 

The proposal is attached (i hope)ORDINANCE%20NO.doc and was forwarded by Marc South the City Planner.

 

See you there!

 

Rob Shepler

Mayhill, New   Mexico

Comment by Sam Barden on June 2, 2013 at 2:42pm

The other side of that top bar.

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